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Author Topic: New thread? The MBS business empire  (Read 3290 times)
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« on: October 03, 2007, 08:05:57 pm »

Is it within the policy of this forum to start a thread on MBS as a company? There is a lot of information out there about MBS the Directors and their past business interests and their mail boxes and past associates. It is all quite entertaining but needs drawing together in one place so that we can draw our own conclusions about the businesses and their fitness to trade. Given the upset and misery that MBS is deliberately causing it seems right that factual information is readily accessable to people who are anxious to make personal a more representation about their situation.
What does the group think?
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 10:12:15 pm »

Before going any further, take a look at this link .  As you can see, there could be issues with what you are suggesting.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 12:52:43 am »

All of the info below is in the public domain and may have been discussed in but It should be easy to firm up a few other facts before committing to a forum.
Ashley Terrence Bateup  has the higher profile of the two MBS Directors is recorded at companies house with the following Directorships: two private addresses are also given.
Current Directorships are: Keyguardian (dormant) and Micro Bill Systems registered at suite 15, 14 clifton down road, Bristol which is the address for a fascinating range of suits and po boxes.
Disolved companies are: Fozashley ltd (dissolved 2002) and [Moderator: I have removed the second company's name as it could be confused with another, quite legitimate, and currently trading, organisation] registered at,10TH FLOOR,1 DUCHESS STREET,MAYFAIR,LONDON W1W 6AN
Resigned directorship; Hamborn Ltd, which has two colourful Co Directors and seems to have run into trouble in Germany, [Moderator:  Can you substantiate that claim? And if Mr. Bateup has resigned his directorship, is this relevant?] I leave you to Google this one 
He is CEO of Synergy http://synergybs.co.uk/index_files/Page589.htm one of the client compnies is (name removed)  ltd [Note from moderator:  I do not think you can be sure of this relationship from the link that you've provided, so I have removed the client company's name.]

I also just found this reference http://mbsvictims.org.uk/index.php?action=profile;u=9;sa=showPosts
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« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 07:35:08 am »

A note of caution about the previous posting:  The moderators do not have the capabilities of checking out all the information posted on the forum and anybody reading such posts should be aware that there may be other companies with identical or similar names which are not related to those mentioned here. 

Please do not rely solely upon information of this kind, and also please bear in mind that any companies mentioned are probably engaged in quite legitimate business.
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« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 12:41:10 pm »

In my defence
I understand that Forum Friend / moderator might feel uncomfortable about the repurcussions of printing the information in my previous post but the source is a comercially sourced directors report and is information that is in the public domain. The dates, addresses, company names etc are correct and publication was agreed by Mr Bateup in registration of his directorships and this information is put in the public domain precisely to protect the public. I have avoided speculation, but have aluded to some information that is already published in news groups about business activities in Germany and would invite people who know more about the facts to add to this. I also have interesting information that I have not had time to sift through relating to use of mailboxes in other activities again factual comments welcome.
Mr Bateup is a big boy who knows that he is perpetrating a scam of the same sort that has been stopped pending legal investigations in USA, he knows that it is causing misery to probably thousands of people yet wants to wring as much personal cash out of it as possible before the Trade Departments waken up.
A forum set up to discuss the sole topic of MBS should not waste too much time worrying about his feelings but get the facts out there for all.
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« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 02:20:14 pm »

There is no criticism of you implied, Zeebu, and whatever is in the public domain and known to be accurate is fine - but sometimes things are posted (on forums elsewhere) which are speculation, or even can be attributed to confusion, and we all need to be careful on that front because of the laws of libel, etc. 

There have been cases where MBS has been confused with other, totally innocent, companies, too - and that has resulted in their receiving threats, etc., from disaffected MBS victims.

On a slightly different tack, while information about Mr. Bateup's other connections, etc., is 'interesting', it won't of itself lead to the MBS business model being outlawed - and that, I'd suggest, is what most victims would like. 

Neither I nor Andy would want to appear heavyhanded in our moderation, but we do have to observe some basic etiquette, particularly since we would not wish the forum to have to close down under the pressure of threatened litigation.

Thanks for being understanding of that.
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« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 03:06:36 pm »

Point taken entirely, accuracy and avoiding harm to those with no connection must be the primary consideration. In proposing this thread the point is to create a repository of information relating to the MBS business and its connections, Mr Bateup has made himself a target for criticism and investigation by his actions and arguements. If I was an internet scammer with links to the porn industry then I would personally not want the fact broadcast but Mr Bateup seems to be taking it head on publically and I would very much like to see his activities permanently attached to his CV. If this is not a disincentive to him then publically available information about this about his methods may act as a disincentive for companies to consider this scam as a method of  'debit management' and see what that does for the business model.

For those that want to see the method outlawed asap I reccomend reading the posting from kailb in this forum.
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